SPFPP 396: What Herpes Taught Me About Sex

I’ve learned more from herpes about sex and intimacy than I’ve learned in any sex education class, porn video, or any of my more experienced partners.

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    Courtney Brame: Hello, welcome to Something Positive for Positive People. I'm Courtney Brain. Something Positive for Positive People is a nonprofit organization supporting people navigating herpes stigma, as well as advocating for better sexual health communication between patients and healthcare providers, as well as between sexual partners.

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    Courtney Brame: quick intro and up-to-date stuff. I want to try and keep this to just a couple of minutes so I can get into the content for today's podcast. What I want to talk about is…

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    Courtney Brame: what I've learned about sex, throughout the course of my herpes diagnosis. We are approaching the 400th podcast episode, which, if you happen to be in New York City or the surrounding areas, and you can make it to Brooklyn on November… or, I'm sorry, on December 12th, from 5 p.m. to 9pm, I'm gonna host a community karaoke. I'm looking forward to being able to sing with people who

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    Courtney Brame: just care about minimizing herpes stigma, and getting to bring people together who all are connected through something positive for positive people to some capacity, right? And in addition to that, I launched the Herpes Support NYC landing page.

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    Courtney Brame: That is something that you'll find if you go to SPFPP.org. If you are in New York, you'll easily be able to find it. It's on the pop-up window.

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    Courtney Brame: And that offers you the opportunity to just give your email address for you to be, sent

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    Courtney Brame: information on local events, like, I'm a big, karaoke person now, so, if there are things happening, and a group of us can get together and go out, it'd be cool to let this be a regular thing. So…

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    Courtney Brame: that's something I'm trying out. If it's successful, cool. If it's not, then we just move on to the next thing.

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    Courtney Brame: I am also hosting the herpes support group. So, with the holidays, the schedules are gonna look a little funky, so please contact me if you're interested in attending the support groups. Generally, we will always meet on the first and third Monday at 7.30 p.m. Eastern Time for women, and then for men, it's the second and fourth Monday at 7.30 p.m. Eastern Time.

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    Courtney Brame: That's for men. But yeah, with the holidays, I've had to move some things around, just with people's availability, as well as myself traveling, and I want to be on top of that, so if you are not subscribed to the Something Positive for Positive People newsletter, please do so, do subscribe. I send out one email a month, it's the early part of the month, so that you get a recap of what's happened, and an idea of what's to come.

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    Courtney Brame: And then if you register for anything, then you'll be part of that. For the month of December, we have 5 Mondays in December, so…

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    Courtney Brame: I want to figure out if I can make something happen for that last Monday, and see if we can get people together. I don't know if that's New Year's Eve, though, because if it is New Year's Eve, that's gonna change some things, now that I'm thinking about it. Oh, it's not New Year's Eve. So, yeah, we'll have something,

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    Courtney Brame: planned for that last Monday of the month. I don't know exactly what, but I'm thinking maybe having a blended group.

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    Courtney Brame: Or maybe even host some type of a… Practice, dating.

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    Courtney Brame: scenarios or something, because that's what we're getting into. I have my fingers crossed, I'm 99% sure that this is gonna happen. The only 1% of it not having happened is the, delivery of the funds, but it's looking like we're gonna get to do

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    Courtney Brame: some sexual help.

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    Courtney Brame: conversation simulations, personally, so we can make some videos that give you all real-time examples of what it'll look like for people in a variety of relationship styles and presentations, gender expressions, having conversations with partners in different scenarios about moving forward sexually with one another, and dating and discussing different health conditions and diagnoses.

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    Courtney Brame: just what comes up naturally when you're dating somebody, let's say dinner ends, and you're wanting to take things back to your place. What does that conversation look like? How can that conversation look in a way that's not cheesy, or that's gonna ruin the mood, or anything like that? So I wanna…

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    Courtney Brame: Acknowledge that, we are anticipating the resources to be able to do that.

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    Courtney Brame: and make it happen. So I'll be putting out a casting call for people who can be patient actors, or not patient actors, who can be, actors in these scenarios, because I want it to be a variety of people with various representation, between able, bodiness, and gender, and, monogamy, non-monogamy, negotiating kink scenes, maybe even sharing mental health conditions,

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    Courtney Brame: and these things going well, and them not going well, but for these to also be learning experiences that we can use and educate ourselves and teach from. That was not a couple of minutes, and I'm sorry, but these are things that I'm very excited about. I recently gave a talk at Eastern Michigan University at their

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    Courtney Brame: School of Nursing program, and this went really, really well. We're in conversations about possibly working together in the future. For those who don't know, one of the things that I do through Something Positive is create these simulated experiences with healthcare professionals in their clinics to be able to practice taking a sexual history and delivering a diagnosis with a patient actor, so that they can get that real-time feedback from them on what it was like

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    Courtney Brame: having them as a provider. So, I hadn't thought about conducting this with colleges or medical schools, so if this is something that's on the radar and we make this happen, then we're looking at a massive shift in what's going to be happening here, something positive for possible people.

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    Courtney Brame: I felt it was important for me to make these announcements because I recently got excited about the fact that I am no longer applying for grants, and since making that decision, that's where this releasing, like, I talk about attachment… attached release.

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    Courtney Brame: And…

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    Courtney Brame: I was very attached to getting funding for the work that I do, because I do believe it's good work. People tell me all the time how necessary it is, how helpful it is, and I've been looking for not the approval, but the money to be able to continue to do this, to make it more sufficient. And in these grant applications, I put so much time, energy.

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    Courtney Brame: the money that's not being made. I'm not putting money into it, but the hours that go into these applications, it's incredibly ridiculous how long you put into looking for grants, finding the right opportunities, presenting it in a way that meets their format. You kind of have to learn for each individual grant application what they're asking for, and present the same information in their language.

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    Courtney Brame: And I've done that so much over the years that I decided this ain't for me no more.

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    Courtney Brame: There's no herpes-focused grants that exist, and I've been trying to fit a square peg into a round hole by trying to make it align with mental health or HIV prevention awareness.

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    Courtney Brame: And it just hasn't worked. So, I'm looking forward to being able to have finally released that, and a couple of days after making that decision, I got reached out to by someone who's been a donor in the past, and this time they have a significant amount of money for us to put together this pilot project, well, a project, that allows for us to create these scenarios, which I think is gonna be really valuable to something positive for positive people.

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    Courtney Brame: community. And as we're coming up on our 400th podcast episode, and I mentioned the celebration December 12th, in Brooklyn, New York, from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m.

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    Courtney Brame: As we get closer to this,

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    Courtney Brame: I'm leaning towards stopping podcasting for something positive for positive people, and it's not out of a place of, like, boredom or anything like that. It just feels like the right time. I have been…

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    Courtney Brame: struggling to get podcast guests, and I recently had one, and the conversation, you know, just left me feeling like, okay, like, this was… this was great, and it's a conversation that I have so often.

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    Courtney Brame: on this platform that I don't think that there's really a need to go beyond 400 podcast episodes. I like to think that people who

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    Courtney Brame: come into this space, they show up, they listen to what they need to listen to, and then they go on about their business. I think that most topics have been covered, we've gone into some heavy conversations, we've gone into some light, playful conversations, but now something positive for positive people has evolved in such a way that the podcast is now there. I don't think there's a need for me to continue to put that 3 to 5 hours a week

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    Courtney Brame: into that, when I can release that, the form that is the podcast, and free up the raw material energy, and allow for that to go into offering better support groups, offering better support calls, and offering

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    Courtney Brame: better yoga therapy, and being able to complete my yoga therapy certification, and also maybe even to start applying for more.

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    Courtney Brame: speaking engagements, for more public speaking, sharing my experience, talking about dating, and discussing our sexual health status, and yeah, leaning into that part of myself. Like, I'm a published author now, in the Foundation's, book. It's got a lengthy title.

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    Courtney Brame: I'll link that in the show notes here. And I'm so grateful for the opportunity. I'm presenting at conferences, and I think that it's time for me to go ahead and step into that professional lens, and not allow for me to pigeonhole myself into, all my podcasts. So my board member's been on my ass about this for…

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    Courtney Brame: ever now, and they're just like, Courtney, you're not a podcaster, you're more than a podcaster, and now I'm in a space where I do have to release that identity. It's been 8 years, and it's something that I've wanted… that I've become so attached to as part of my sense of self. And in releasing that, I look forward to see what takes form.

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    Courtney Brame: As a result of that raw material energy being freed up.

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    Courtney Brame: So, yeah, I hope that y'all stick around with me throughout that transition, but yeah, episode 400 is coming, and I just wanna, leading up to it, speak about what I've learned over the last 12 years from my herpes diagnosis, and today, let's talk about what I've learned about sex. Now.

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    Courtney Brame: When I first was diagnosed, I did not think that I would be able to have sex again, because no one would want herpes, and I thought that that cluster of bumps on my penis would never go away.

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    Courtney Brame: jokes on me, it went away, and people do want to have sex with me. But my relationship to sex prior to my diagnosis was… it came from a mindset of.

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    Courtney Brame: women don't like having sex, and I know that this is because of an ex that I was dating at the time who told me, we had a lot of sex, and she was like, no one is ever going to want to have as much sex as I do. And she really… she got my ass, because she was like, women don't like having sex, you found the one woman in the world who loves having sex as much as you do.

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    Courtney Brame: And I believe that.

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    Courtney Brame: And, I never challenged it, and there were times where,

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    Courtney Brame: I would… we would break up.

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    Courtney Brame: And then end up getting back together, and it would kind of be true, and it would be true in the sense that I would pursue a sexual relationship with somebody, and we might have sex, and it's a new… it's a new thing, right? And I would like to do round two, round three, and mind you, I was in college, college age, and like, early 20s, right? So, we're talking about just…

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    Courtney Brame: a lot of sex with a new person, and it's exciting, it's invigorating, it's arousing, it's pleasurable, right? And…

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    Courtney Brame: she was right. She was right. The other women that I had sex with in between us,

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    Courtney Brame: they didn't seem to like having sex nearly as much as she did, and so this relationship was one

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    Courtney Brame: Where, she, to my knowledge, doesn't have herpes, and, at the time when we were getting back together, she just assumed that if I had it, we had it, like, she had it as well, but that ended up not being the case. And so, yeah, we would constantly break up, get back together, and in between that, whenever I would sleep with someone else, it would be…

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    Courtney Brame: different. It would be so different. Now, mind you, when you have a history with someone, yeah, there's more comfort, there's more rapport, you are used to each other, the jitters are kind of out of the way, and the only thing that…

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    Courtney Brame: is an obstacle of, I guess, new communication. So, we were very much in sync in those sexual relationships, or in that sexual relationship. We were very in sync, but that came with a development of time and history and…

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    Courtney Brame: connection and intimacy, and… did I say intimacy twice? I might have said intimacy twice, but

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    Courtney Brame: our relationship was one of a lot of discomfort. We had a lot of conflict, we worked through it, we didn't work through it, and we just knew each other. And so, the belief

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    Courtney Brame: that she instilled in me was something that I never… I can't say I didn't challenge it, because I did pursue other relationships, and she was right. It was validated by that. But also, my definition of what sex was, it was just intercourse.

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    Courtney Brame: And the more intercourse that I would have, right, like, you know, people get tired, people, you know, dry out, and there wasn't a lot of knowledge and information that I knew. It took for me

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    Courtney Brame: stepping into the sex education world and learning about things like how women's bodies operate, their arousals, and the different types of sex that can be had, because all I knew to that point was I needed to get my dick wet.

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    Courtney Brame: I needed to catch as many bodies as I could, have sex with as many people as I could, with as many women as I could.

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    Courtney Brame: Because that's what, you know, we were told, and that's what everybody did. There wasn't any emphasis on intimacy, or demisexuality, or emotional connection, none of that. It was just like, my dick hard, I need to find somebody that's gonna take care of this for me. And…

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    Courtney Brame: that I found somebody who took care of it for me all the time, whenever I wanted, right? And I think that that relationship

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    Courtney Brame: What happened was that it…

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    Courtney Brame: set the expectation for me that this is what love is, and I don't mean just the sex, right? We're whole human beings, and if you look at a circle, there's 360 degrees in the circle. Our…

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    Courtney Brame: expression of sex is one degree of that circle. So the other 359 aspects of me were not okay to this person that I was in the relationship with. It was so much about who I was, and not necessarily what I did. And that has played out to be a pattern from that relationship in college, even to my most recent relationship, where who I am is not okay.

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    Courtney Brame: And it overwrites what I do.

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    Courtney Brame: So, I look at my relationship to sex, and… I've… I've been… Consistently met with that belief.

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    Courtney Brame: that nobody else is going to fuck me like the person that I'm fucking.

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    Courtney Brame: And I hate… I'm angry at myself for how easily manipulated I was, or can be, how vulnerable and susceptible I've been to manipulation, just through my dick.

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    Courtney Brame: And excuse my French, but in these last 5 podcast episodes, like, I'm gonna give y'all the raw essence of what y'all been getting whenever… before I got all, like, professional and shit, right? I still got that, but I don't know that I need to really code switch on this platform, and I think that it's more effective when I just talk to y'all, like, like real people. But that was the thing.

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    Courtney Brame: My relationship to sex was exclusively limited to, my dick.

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    Courtney Brame: And, through me getting herpes, There were times where…

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    Courtney Brame: I think… I don't know that I was ever really actively seeing anyone when I had an outbreak, to have to say, hey, I'm having an outbreak, we can't have sex tonight, can we do something else? I don't think that that was ever the case. I've often been in long-distance relationships, or there was some kind of space, and I think that works for me, because I am a very…

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    Courtney Brame: emotionally intense person, I think that that's probably the

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    Courtney Brame: Best way that I can put it. I know that I enjoy connecting early. I like vulnerability now. I want to go deep now. I want to know the worst thing that's ever happened to you. I want to know the best thing that's ever happened to you. I don't give a fuck what you do for a living. I don't give a fuck what your favorite color is, right? Like, tell me about you.

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    Courtney Brame: And that intimacy has become so fucking attractive to me, because I've spent so much of my life being objectified and limited to the performance and, the performance of what I can do with my genitals.

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    Courtney Brame: And…

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    Courtney Brame: now, through this relationship that I've had with herpes, that has shifted the way that I relate to women romantically, and the… some of the limitations of, okay, well, I have to tell this person I have herpes, so I want to make sure that it's somebody worth me going through the emotional,

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    Courtney Brame: Fatigue that comes with prepping for having that conversation, that preps me for what the outcomes could be, the kinds of conversations that we'll need to have about it.

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    Courtney Brame: And it made me pick people that I have more intimacy with. And intimacy doesn't necessarily have to be built over time. Like, you don't need to…

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    Courtney Brame: know someone for 10 years to feel intimate with them. You don't need to know someone… you can know somebody for 10 seconds and feel like you know them. And in fact, I've experienced that before. And the more raw expression of myself, the more that I can lift my attachment to my form as this Black man, lower middle… I say upper-lower class, I gotta stop doing that, too.

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    Courtney Brame: upper-lower class, black, now 37-year-old man with hair on his head, a beard, muscles. I think I'm attractive. I think that I'm decent at sex. I think that my penis size is decent as well. And I've got all of these things going for me, and when I release my attachment to all of these parts of myself, what am I left with?

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    Courtney Brame: What I'm left with is what I want people to really see, for me to be able to give them all of the… my form.

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    Courtney Brame: So, energetically, what it feels like is… intimacy… people say this thing of, into me I see, or into you I see, but that's what intimacy is, when you are in the presence of someone, and you're able to experience yourself almost in your purest form. And I'm gonna take a little sidestep, and hopefully I'll remember to come back to this, but…

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    Courtney Brame: I had an interaction today with someone that I hurt really fucking badly, and had no fucking idea that I hurt her.

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    Courtney Brame: And this is somebody that… we had that intimacy for years, and getting into relationships, like, we've disconnected ourselves, and life circumstances have brought us into each other's lives again. And during the time that she popped up into my life was while I was going through the…

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    Courtney Brame: ending struggles in my relationship, and I was always, you know, respectful, logically, verbally, with the,

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    Courtney Brame: thinking that my ex and I were gonna get back together, like, I was respectfully navigating this transition, but

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    Courtney Brame: what ended up happening was I wasn't being a good person to her. I was honoring the part of myself that was in this relationship, and in doing so, it was minimizing and dismissing this person that was in front of me who I was actually experiencing intimacy with, but I was incapable of receiving it because I was preoccupied with someone else. My presence was not able to be there.

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    Courtney Brame: and with her, and in turn, she did for me what I've done for my relationships, which is give unconditionally, and I got to experience through her telling me how it made her feel, and me processing and being like, oh shit, I wasn't myself in February, March, April, May, June, July, August. Started to become…

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    Courtney Brame: this new version of myself, and accepting it September, October, November. And I was able to sit down with that and apologize to her, and take accountability for how

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    Courtney Brame: I talked to her, how I treated her, and I don't mean so in, like, an overt, shitty person way. It's… she gave unconditionally to me, picked me up from the airport, helped me with my bags, drove me to places that I needed to be.

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    Courtney Brame: got me food, asked me if I was okay, saw me, and witnessed me, and just was fucking present with me.

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    Courtney Brame: And I wasn't able to receive that, and I feel like such an asshole, because I feel like more of an asshole because I identify myself as somebody who's emotionally aware and emotionally intelligent, and I couldn't… I didn't know. Not only did I not know that I was hurting her, it took me so long to know that I was hurting her, and then…

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    Courtney Brame: the fact that I didn't know

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    Courtney Brame: how I was hurting her. Like, I knew I was hurting her, but I didn't understand, like, how or why. And now, me being in this place of…

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    Courtney Brame: groundedness of having my routine, being in tune with this atomic language that I use to…

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    Courtney Brame: be my life blueprint of how to live, I'm able to see that shit so much more clearly, and I'm like, fuck, dude, like, I wasn't able to receive from you, and it felt like being taken from, and I know that feeling all too well, because that's very similar to what I felt in my last relationship, like, in hindsight.

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    Courtney Brame: In hindsight, giving unconditionally to someone that you just want to give to, who can't receive it, that fucking hurts. And you may not realize the damage right away, but the damage is happening. And for the other person to not even be able to realize it, this person that you… that means so much to you.

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    Courtney Brame: that you see in a way that they cannot fucking see themselves, that hurts. And it was the connection point of sitting down face-to-face, and me being like, I hurt you.

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    Courtney Brame: I now understand why I hurt you, and I apologize not just for hurting you, but also for taking so fucking long to understand and realize why I hurt you. Because…

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    Courtney Brame: that intimacy, me being able to see myself in her, when it clicked, I couldn't unsee that shit.

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    Courtney Brame: And the apology was genuine, the apology was real, it was authentic, it was coming from a place of knowing and believing, like, I know I fucked you up. And I think I got some more apologizing to do for people that came into my life around that time. I thought that I covered all my bases, but I don't think I did, and this one kind of taught me that. So, there's somebody else I need to apologize to.

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    Courtney Brame: I'mma send her a voice message and, like, explain that a little bit, and hopefully it's received well.

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    Courtney Brame: So… the… going back now, I remembered to go back. So, the intimacy piece, the… the, the…

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    Courtney Brame: there's not a the. Let me… let me stop doing that now. There's no the to, like, the one thing that I've learned. But I've learned that I can't let other people dictate what sex is to me.

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    Courtney Brame: like I have in the past. I had, you know, we'll take it back to that longest relationship that I had, where she was like, no one is ever gonna wanna fuck you as much as I wanna fuck you.

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    Courtney Brame: That is absolute bullshit, and I believed it up until I got to see for myself and challenge those beliefs that I had with my behavior, with putting myself out there, with asking for what I want, and being like, hey, you know, I would like to… I ain't saying it like this, but being able to ask for sex, and ask for the kind of sex that I want.

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    Courtney Brame: There was a period where I got it, and then it was like, hmm, this isn't quite what it is that I'm looking for. What is that thing that I want? I want that fucking intimacy.

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    Courtney Brame: And a lot of people didn't built for that. I was not built for that at the time that I was receiving it. And so…

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    Courtney Brame: make sure that there's some understanding and, compatibility around what intimacy is, because the deeper the intimacy that I have, and mind you, me and this person have not had sex, the deeper the intimacy that I have, I think the greater the quality of the sex, if, when it does happen. I've met people

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    Courtney Brame: In a day that we've had some really deep conversations, and like.

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    Courtney Brame: Inner, like, reflecting back and forth to one another, and…

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    Courtney Brame: Deleted her number. But, there's somebody else I need to apologize to. God damn. I… I'm on a road to redemption. But also.

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    Courtney Brame: That

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    Courtney Brame: that immediate connection, or the quick connection, that doesn't carry any less weight. It doesn't mean any… it doesn't have any less value. I'm making sure my microphone on while I'm doing all this damn talking.

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    Courtney Brame: Is this on? Yeah, it is, okay, green light, cool.

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    Courtney Brame: Sex has become a presence practice for intimacy. I'm able to connect with people at an intimate level. Like, I don't want to just put my dick in somebody. I can… I can jack off for that.

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    Courtney Brame: I can jack off of that. I've had some of the best non… I've had some of the best phone sex that's been better than some of the sex that I've had, and it's been a long time since I've had that, like, cookie-cutter sex. I think the most recent time that I had it might have been after a drunk night, and I was like, I don't want to drink anymore.

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    Courtney Brame: I don't wanna… I don't wanna have sex because I feel like I have to anymore. I want intimacy. Like, I know that that's what I want, that's what I'm built for, that's what I desire, that's what…

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    Courtney Brame: my soul is calling for, my nervous system is calling for intimate connections and relationships. And not only do I have that in my romantic and sexual relationships, I have intimacy in my friendships. I came in… I'm in St. Louis right now, I saw my buddy Carl, and the way that I left St. Louis

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    Courtney Brame: I can honestly say is kind of a parallel of how I know he was at the time.

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    Courtney Brame: Like, at that intimate level, because the people around us very much reflect our internal world. My internal world was at conflict, and I know that his was too, and now coming back with such clarity, having been in an environment where I've been able to ground myself and have some consistency and stability, and build this way of living, this blueprint of how to live, I come back, and Carl has a relationship with God.

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    Courtney Brame: And the language that he used is from the Bible, you know, God, Christianity, I want to say, and that language now

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    Courtney Brame: more so aligns with me through the language that I've created around my… or not created, but the language that I've used, and the language that I've experienced through yoga, meditation, learning about the nervous system, comparing it to the solar system, and atoms. Same things. And so, I'm validated in my external environment by my internal world. So, St. Louis hasn't changed. I left St. Louis.

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    Courtney Brame: And…

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    Courtney Brame: I changed, and I came back, and now, like, where I'm at is a direct reflection of that. I went to,

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    Courtney Brame: I went to a… what was supposed to be some type of a play party thing last night. It was marketed very poorly, because that was not a play party. A sex toy store, had their theaters open, and they just charged you $25 to go into the theater.

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    Courtney Brame: And maybe if you wanted to go to the other side, there was a bed in the room and a glory hole.

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    Courtney Brame: I went, I saw, like, throwback porn. It was two porn stars that I remember growing up on. Like, the first porn stars that I saw when I was 17, 18 years old, Havana Ginger, Chloe Dior, and I cannot remember the other lady's name, but I was like, I know y'all. And then LT…

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    Courtney Brame: And, what's his name? Like, Sean?

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    Courtney Brame: Shawn Michaels. I think it was Shawn Michaels. That's crazy, I remember their names. That's how much porn I watched when I was a teenager. So…

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    Courtney Brame: I just sat there and was like… I went with a friend and, his girl, and I was just like, I'mma wait, I'mma wait, see if more people come. I was like, man, let me get up out of here. This ain't for me. This is not for me. And I realized that I feel that way about a lot of the…

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    Courtney Brame: play parties and things that I go to. Like, I'm very curious and interested in sexual exploration. There's things that I want to do, and I think in order for me to have those experiences, I gotta quit being a little bitch and just throw my own party, and just ask for it, and say, hey, this is the kind of experience I want to have, these are the people that I want to be here. I want to open it up to these kinds of people that meet these values and align in these ways.

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    Courtney Brame: Let's make this shit happen. And…

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    Courtney Brame: I'm learning to communicate more about my sexual needs the more that I experience intimacy. I'm learning to not just ask for what I need in sex, let me not say that, I'm learning to ask, hey,

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    Courtney Brame: Can I… oh, can I stay at your place? Can you take me to this place?

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    Courtney Brame: can I use that thing of yours? I'm learning…

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    Courtney Brame: so much about vulnerability, the more I occupy this space of intimacy and vulnerability. And in a women's support group, we were talking about this intersection of vulnerability and intimacy, which I thought was a really lovely conversation, because also boundaries came up, and someone was expressing, like, a conflict between

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    Courtney Brame: being vulnerable and having boundaries, because it's almost like the boundaries protect your vulnerability, and someone said this where…

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    Courtney Brame: the boundaries or more of, like, an entrance point. It's not a limitation.

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    Courtney Brame: it's more of a checkpoint of being able to proceed with deeper intimacy and vulnerability, I think. I don't know that that's how it was said exactly, but boundaries are not limitations, and I think that that's what we think of when we think boundaries, we think barriers, and that's not the case. Like, that's what I've thought for the longest. I thought, you know, if there's people

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    Courtney Brame: that I need to have boundaries with, why don't I just disengage? Why don't I just distance myself from these people?

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    Courtney Brame: But I'm figuring it out. The boundaries… I need… I have boundaries for myself. And…

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    Courtney Brame: the boundaries for myself allow for me to engage in the world… with the world in a way that does not compromise my core identity. And when I talk about, you know, Brock from God of War, I'm a… this is one of my favorite quotes. The nature of a thing is more important than the form of a thing. The nature of a thing is made up of the emotional investment that we pour into it. It is our money, our energy, attention, time. Shout out Coach Greg Adams for the

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    Courtney Brame: acronym. And all of those things that we pour into

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    Courtney Brame: we pour into the world, they take form, and the form that it takes is a direct reflection of our inner world. So if we are

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    Courtney Brame: believing exclusively that we are our genitals. We're gonna manifest partners and relationships and circumstances that solidify that. And what we want is for ourselves to have, like, a fluid life, a fluid identification with the world around us, and what…

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    Courtney Brame: identities, challenges, events, present themselves around us. We want to have a fluidity there, so that when it does take form, unconsciously, we are always pouring into something. There's an emotional investment. Consciously, we have to release that attachment so that it's like, it's like we're cooking up something. We're cooking it up, we're cooking it up, we're cooking it up, and when it's time for it to release, it's time for it to release.

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    Courtney Brame: Now, with people, if we're in an aligned relationship, we're constantly going to be changing and reflecting the change in the other person, and it's an attachment release, an attachment release. And I think that these are the relationships that align for me, are ones that

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    Courtney Brame: there's a consciousness to it of attaching and releasing, and understanding that we gon' change. I'm not releasing you, like, get the fuck out of my life, but it's this version of you that needs to now be released from me, and if you release my…

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    Courtney Brame: version of my form that I've taken, from you.

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    Courtney Brame: then that leaves room for if you still align, and if I still align, for us to take new form in a way that creates that alignment for us to come together and create whatever the fuck it is that we create. Whether that be an experience, whether that be a passion project, a…

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    Courtney Brame: whatever it is that people create, and not just children, right? So, the experiences can be had when we attach release, and I found myself drawn to very released people, people who are not attached, and not… this isn't to say that they're, like.

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    Courtney Brame: detached from the world entirely, like, fuck everything, but it's that they're open to what comes in, and naturally flows, there's an attachment, and then consciously, there's the detachment. I love somebody that can do that. I love me a fucking…

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    Courtney Brame: Being who is not someone who is so attached to an identity, and that there's a fluidity to them.

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    Courtney Brame: And…

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    Courtney Brame: The more roles and identities that we begin to attach to and give form to, when we hold on tight to those.

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    Courtney Brame: we allow for ourselves to become more rigid and calcified, and I did this with my identity of wanting to have a family, wanting to be a family in my last relationship. I created an identity of myself that was,

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    Courtney Brame: monogamous, or possibly monogamish, in a long-term relationship. I pictured what my kids looked like with this person. I pictured what growing old would look like, what the home would look like. I was ready.

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    Courtney Brame: And I poured so much emotionally into that, that when it released, everything that matched who I truly am began to just fucking flood into my life. People, finances.

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    Courtney Brame: Opportunities, career shifts, and the things that no longer align, there just wasn't room for.

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    Courtney Brame: And, you know, whatever the circumstances happen, for me to be kind of nudged out of that community, I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful for it because it did, in fact, give my… the energy that was freed up

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    Courtney Brame: a pathway for it to go in the direction of something that does more so align with me. And it aligns with these identities that I carry that I don't wanna, you know, I identify with, but I can't say that I'm so attached to that they're not me. And I…

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    Courtney Brame: I have the roles that I maneuver through as necessary between being a podcaster, right? So, now.

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    Courtney Brame: podcast, I've done podcasting, but I don't have to be a podcaster. I'm Courtney, and the role of podcaster, you know, was something that suited, and now I think it's time for me to begin the process of letting go.

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    Courtney Brame: I've loved podcasting. The same way that I…

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    Courtney Brame: love the idea of getting a grant, and being able to do this work and be paid for it. As I let go, I'm finding that there are so many more opportunities for me to earn income, and they've presented themselves, in ways that

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    Courtney Brame: do more so align with who I am now and where I'm at. I'm so much more comfortable educating and teaching. I had to do my first presentation by myself. I managed to do two of them by myself, and I didn't die.

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    Courtney Brame: And that was another thing, like, I became so attached to the idea of being able to work with my partner, my girlfriend, my person, right? And…

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    Courtney Brame: the first time that I did it without her, without that… someone filling that role, because I even tried to fill the role with another talk that I gave, I reached out to someone for help, and I realized from then, I was like, damn, you know, I see…

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    Courtney Brame: that this wasn't something that was needed, it was something that I wanted. I wanted to bring my person into my life and have that… that intimacy. People call this shit enmeshment, but, like, I think that what I've…

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    Courtney Brame: I used to… my last couple relationships, the idea was, I would say this, like, oh yeah, we do everything together. Everything. Wink wink. Right? And… I've…

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    Courtney Brame: Only if, dot dot dot. And the if was conditional on me changing, and even then, like, it was just hoping that over time I change my mind or become somebody else, and that's… I gotta stop needing to learn that fucking lesson.

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    Courtney Brame: And so it's been, again, just through sex, through intimacy, and the development of

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    Courtney Brame: So, going to these conferences and being in these spaces of queer women, like, I've been able to get this completely unique perspective on what my identities are outside of sex, being a man, being Black, being fit, being attractive, being someone who does value sex. I love having intercourse, and that's not exclusively what it is. Like, that's part of the package.

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    Courtney Brame: But now there are the kinky things, there's the role play. I think I've learned… I said this, I was like, I ain't really…

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    Courtney Brame: a kinky person, I really do enjoy having sex. There are things that fall under the category of kink, especially, like, roleplay. I tell everybody, I got this fantasy about,

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    Courtney Brame: like a Chick-fil-A employee fucking on my order. Now, Chick-fil-A never fucks up your order, right? But the hottest thing, one of the hottest things that I want to do is role-play, like, a scenario where the person, she forgets my Chick-fil-A sauce in the bag, and I get to just be an asshole, because I'm never an asshole to the people that handle my food, servers,

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    Courtney Brame: waitresses, hostess, whatever. And for me to just be an asshole, for her to be like, oh, well, is there anything I can do to make it right? I get off soon. Like, that is so hot to me. And lately, I've felt a little bit more comfortable saying that and sharing that kind of thing.

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    Courtney Brame: But I think, yeah, the role plays are…

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    Courtney Brame: what appealed to me the most, out of the kink stuff, and I feel so much more comfortable just, like, naming that and saying that, like, hey.

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    Courtney Brame: I'm honestly not… I don't care to, like… I'll try shit.

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    Courtney Brame: But there's nothing that appeals to me about, like, beating the shit out of somebody. Like, I've seen people with the boxing gloves, and they do the boxing gloves, or, like, the spankings, they can be so loving and caring, but there's just, like, a fucking evilness to it that I've seen.

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    Courtney Brame: I don't know, I don't have, like, a desire for an expression of that. I got some toxic shit in me that I think needs an outlet for me to be able to…

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    Courtney Brame: you know, pour into whatever it is that I'm gonna pour into, and I think that kink is a good outlet for that. I was talking to a partner of mine about it. I was like, yo, everything is so healthy for me right now, I wonder if I'm bored, I wonder if I'm…

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    Courtney Brame: like, needing to find somebody who's toxic and, like, date somebody like that, and she's like, well, no, and we talked about just, like, maybe role-play kink stuff and being able to negotiate that, and I got a little excited about that, so I'm hoping to, you know, be able to find something like that, some kind of a…

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    Courtney Brame: relationship dynamic that works in that way. But I am…

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    Courtney Brame: very happy, content, satisfied, fulfilled everywhere else in my life. I'm feeling a pull for some toxic shit, and…

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    Courtney Brame: the toxic shit is not intimacy. So maybe the intimacy is being able to role play and just express, like, hey, I'm having a craving for something toxic, and I don't want to unconsciously create that shit. If it's gonna be something that… because I feel like life is about balancing work, rest, and play.

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    Courtney Brame: So, what herpes has taught me about sex is that I value intimacy.

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    Courtney Brame: What herpes has taught me about sex is that I value intimacy. I value vulnerability and the ability to express my insecurity, and then be able to lean into that shit. I love being able to lean into and talk about, like, hey, you know, I have concerns that…

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    Courtney Brame: it's vulnerable to me to be open about my life, because I haven't been in a long time, because I feel like it put me in a position where someone can see how I show up, who I am, and then say, hey, Courtney, I'm gonna give you everything that you want, and then I, you know, lean into that and believe it, and then look up, and they didn't really mean that shit.

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    Courtney Brame: Because now, like, looking back, it's happened enough times for me to be like, huh, I got a problem.

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    Courtney Brame: I'm doing what I gotta do, I'm doing the work on myself to be able to sort through that, and not be manipulated so easily by my dick.

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    Courtney Brame: or buy someone who can just control my dick, right? Like, I'm having great sex, so there's not, like, a pursuit of better sex that when I get it, I'll be like, fuck everything and everybody else,

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    Courtney Brame: I'm done. I'm done with y'all. I found the best sex in my life. No. It's the intimacy, and it does not have to be limited to one person or one outlet. You know, I have intimate relationships with people that I've had sex with less than a handful of times that carry so much more weight than somebody that I've had sex every day with. I've had intimacy with people that

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    Courtney Brame: I've had sex with… I have sex with regularly, that I barely even talk to.

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    Courtney Brame: that we know each other on a much more intimate level whenever we do get to connect. And intimacy, I don't want to put any rigidness on it.

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    Courtney Brame: Or any, like, this is what intimacy is. But I do want to encourage y'all

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    Courtney Brame: See what that's like. Challenge your relationship to sex. Ask yourself, what is sex to me? What does it mean? And people will say, shit, that sounds good. Oh, it's connecting, it's love, it's passion. Sometimes it's just getting off.

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    Courtney Brame: sometimes it is intimacy, sometimes it's a lot deeper. Like, there was a friend of mine, well, someone that I thought we were friends, and we were having sex with each other, and…

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    Courtney Brame: she expressed not wanting to have sex anymore, but wanting to be friends. I said, okay, great, I'm fine with that, you know, but are you gonna stop talking to me when you find a boyfriend, and he doesn't like that me and you have had sex? And her response was, it was over text, and I gotta stop doing this shit, don't have deep conversations over text. Because the way that I read it, her response was, well, if that's a problem for

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    Courtney Brame: then I'm gonna do what he wants. And that made me just feel so shitty. It was like, damn, you don't value this thing that I know and value about myself so much, my… the emotional connection, the intimacy. You are basically saying.

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    Courtney Brame: this new nigga that's come into my life for a short period of time is going to mean more to me than you, as someone who is, or will be, or has been in my life as much as you have, who gives unconditionally, and I'm receiving or taking from, I'm cutting that shit off when this man

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    Courtney Brame: expresses an insecurity, and I felt offended as fuck by that, because, like, I know that I've… she's expressed being treated very well by me, even just in being friends.

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    Courtney Brame: Or even outside of the sexual context, and…

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    Courtney Brame: what I heard was, that don't mean shit to me, because when I get a man, like, that… the person who gives me the title of girlfriend gets everything, and I'm willing to cut people off. So we've since had a conversation, and that wasn't the case, but that's how serious I am now about

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    Courtney Brame: my intimacy, my intimate relationships, and the people that I allow, you know, myself to get close to. So, damn, this feels good. This don't feel like venting. It feels very aligned with

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    Courtney Brame: what I hope y'all take from this, I keep saying, man, the…

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    Courtney Brame: Herpes… oh, here come the fire truck. Sorry, y'all. Sorry. I'm sorry.

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    Courtney Brame: Alright, the fire truck's gonna be gone. Okay.

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    Courtney Brame: herpes is so representative of so much other shit. Like, if you are willing to learn from it and ask the questions around it, because I wouldn't have looked at my relationship to sex if herpes wasn't on my dick.

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    Courtney Brame: And make me look at my relationship to sex.

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    Courtney Brame: And it made me have to do so much work and self-exploration, and be curious, and ask these questions, and…

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    Courtney Brame: be willing to interrogate myself in order for me to get here. And another thing that my herpes diagnosis has done is it's led me to a spiritual relationship to myself, a spiritual relationship, relationship with God, and I'll talk about that on another one of the episodes.

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    Courtney Brame: But I feel like, today I just felt more… most called to talk about sex.

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    Courtney Brame: In that relationship, because it has, in fact, evolved to being about intimacy. I can't just look at somebody and be like, damn, you bad, or damn, you got a fat ass. And I love, I love me some thick eyebrows and a wide mouth, y'all.

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    Courtney Brame: I don't know what it is. It's that fucking, the painting. There's a woman that has, like, one eyebrow. I forget her name.

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    Courtney Brame: But… that…

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    Courtney Brame: that woman is, like, the most beautiful woman to me in the whole wide world. Like, the most beautiful expression of art. I ain't never said this, like, on a podcast, but the… it's the full eyebrows and the wide mouth, that does it for me. I don't know why, but…

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    Courtney Brame: Other than that, like, if I see that on somebody, I want to get to know you. Right? That draws me in. I still like nice butts. But anyways…

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    Courtney Brame: Yeah, I appreciate this space that I've created, I appreciate how intentional it has been, and I think, yeah, come episode 400, I look forward to being able to release my attachment to this from the last 8 years, and it's been representative of 12 years of my life, and I… it's kind of like cashing in on what I put into it.

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    Courtney Brame: Like, breaking the piggy bank to see what comes out of it on the other side. Looking at who I've become, I think that me having these podcast interviews for the general population, I don't think that that is a reflection of who I am now on the inside. I think that what's a reflection of who I am on the inside now is to be determined.

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    Courtney Brame: And it's gonna come from me doing more of these public speaking engagements, me reaching out to colleges and universities, which I keep getting this pull towards.

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    Courtney Brame: And, yeah, being able to speak beyond just sex and herpes and stigma and identity, but also consent boundaries and accountability and what it looks like to talk to your partners about sex at, you know, even the college age level. Because it ain't nobody that… and the man… no man, I think, is doing this. A lot of people are fucking telling people what to do, and ain't nobody asking, well, what do you want, and helping them get to that place.

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    Courtney Brame: So I feel like there's been an evolution in my atom of purpose to really align more so with that.

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    Courtney Brame: that,

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    Courtney Brame: that part of myself, like, I'm different. I'm different now. And I'm so grateful for the opportunity to have become different.

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    Courtney Brame: Cause I don't know… I don't know what else I would have done. I don't know…

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    Courtney Brame: I don't know who else to be now. This is… this is me. This is me.

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    Courtney Brame: So, thank y'all for listening. I'm gonna go ahead and upload this podcast episode now. If you notice, I wasn't looking at the camera, I was just kind of, like, looking off because it made it easier for me to be able to speak without having to second-guess and go, oh my god, I'm saying this on a podcast, oh no, what if somebody listens to this? Oh, I'mma be honest, I don't give a fuck.

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    Courtney Brame: I… I've said what I said, and I think I stand by everything that I say.

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    Courtney Brame: I think I stand by everything I say. I do stand by everything that I say, and…

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    Courtney Brame: Yeah, I'm gonna go hard for these last few podcast episodes. I don't want it to feel like I'm forcefully squeezing the last little bit of toothpaste out of the tube. I want this to feel like completion.

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    Courtney Brame: my values, my shell 2 of an atom, my C's are curiosity, creativity, connection, community, choice, and I think that the sixth one, because electron.

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    Courtney Brame: shell 2 of an electron has 6 electrons before creating another orbit, or before it goes… the new electrons go to another orbit. The sixth one is completion.

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    Courtney Brame: And I feel like I've brought something positive for Positive People podcast to a place of completion, and now it's just a matter of rounding out the edges for these last few episodes. I got an interview with a man lined up, we're gonna talk about addiction, we're gonna talk about, his relationship to, his diagnosis and what he's been experiencing. I feel like that's something worth, you know.

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    Courtney Brame: closing this out with. We got the 400th episode, which, I don't know, I don't know what to do for that, but I know we're gonna have the event, again, December 12th, 5pm to 9pm, in Brooklyn, New York. The zip code is 11206, if that's something that's important to you, but when you register.

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    Courtney Brame: I'll send out an email, letting everybody know where the event is gonna be, if you registered for the event, alright? I love y'all, I appreciate y'all, I feel like, ugh, my fucking tone back, and now I'm about to stop doing the podcast. That's crazy. But if you, do care to continue to listen to me, I will be on SELFT, that's S-E-L-F-E-D, and that's where I'm gonna just be talking

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    Courtney Brame: more like this about my personal experiences, and it's kind of like my outloud journal.

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    Courtney Brame: where I process things, so I did a little bit of that here, but not in the amount of detail that I do over on that podcast, so if that's something of interest to you, you are more than welcome to come check that out, and I'll be exploring more of the atomic language, and, like, putting into practice what my spirituality is, and hopefully being able to

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    Courtney Brame: Implement that and integrate that into my work as a yoga therapist and as an educator in the sexual health communication space.

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    Courtney Brame: Alright? So, again, love y'all, and until next time… Stay present.

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Courtney Brame

Emotional Wellness Practitioner using podcasts as support resources for people struggling with herpes stigma and emotional wellness.

https://spfpp.org
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